Homedistiller sacrificial run If time is not an issue for you, then why not practice on creating a wash and running the still on a sacrificial run. Run a 50/50 water/vinegar blend through your still. To accomplish this successfully, you need to ferment enough wash to charge your boiler 3 or 4 times. I the did my sacrificial run after this. It's a sacrificial run. New to Distillation. 4kW heater with a six step Will 2 gallons of wine be enough to run though it I already did a water & vinegar run. It would over flow or suck air. 5gal of Birdwatchers Sugar recipe. So I bought the cheapest vodka and cut it with water down to about 10% abv and ran it. Did my sacrificial run(s) immediately after the vinegar clean and haven't had a problem. I found some feints, a bunch of 40% neutral that went cloudy, and some other odds and ends and tossed it into six gallons of Probably doesn't matter. Sacrificial Run Post by scmoose » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:52 pm I need to do a sacrificial / cleaning run and was going to use a 5 gallon UJSSC wash but the more I think about it the more I don’t want to waste that mash. But here's what I got (corrected for temp): ~75ml FS Jar 1 100ml 87. For a new still, after the vinegar run, can I use some off the shelf product for my sacrificial alcohol run? Using a sugar wash and going through the whole boiling and fermentation process seems wasteful in time and money. This will be run through the still to clean it out of the remaining contaminates and residual vinegar. Run this for 20-30 minutes after you start producing. First sacrificial run last night, distillate came out at around 80 degrees celsius - is this normal? I’ve done a lot of searching and reading and can only find stuff that refers to the vapour or boiler temperature, not the temperature of the actual liquid output. ss 3. Pot Still charged with sacrificial run rained out Post by PeatyKeats » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:35 pm After making a few alterations to my liebig, I conducted a second set of cleaning steps (vinegar run, steam clean) and was just about to fire up the sacrificial run today, when unexpected rain came falling down. I'm curious if I can save the "sacrifice” for future cleaning runs? Was thinking of proofing that down to 20-30 for storage and using for future use when I can add components to my setup ( gin basket, better product condenser etc. I have one fermentation vessel actively making my first Whiskey Corn Mash. Fermented some of Shady’s Sugar Shine over the last week to run as the “sacrificial run” after 2 Vingear/H2O cleaning runs on a new 5 gallon electric element heated Vengeance Pot Still with Thumper. You run slow in a spirit run to avoid smearing but in this case you don't care about smearing so don't waste time with a slow run. Can I dilute this and use it for a You can add a quick sacrificial run with alcoholl to remove elements that vinegar and water vapor did not remove. Sacrificial Run. What amount of liquid should be run though it with this set up? I have 12 gallons of wash fermenting as we I've got some questions about doing a sacrificial run. I like to run the sac runs for at least 2 hours at an appreciable rate to make sure the crud is all washed out. Steaming also removes any flavors and odors from all previous runs and help to clean the palate I saw nothing unusual from the vinegar/water run. k guy's, just done the first sacrificial run, found an old beer kit at the back of the kitchen cupboard, thought this would be ideal for the first run, so let it ferment for a week or more, then tonight ran it through the still, ran off about a cup full, then collected about a litre in a large jar, after testing it with a hydrometer, only got a reading of about 10%. Dump it when complete, don't I'm curious if I can save the "sacrifice” for future cleaning runs? Was thinking of proofing that down to 20-30 for storage and using for future use when I can add components to my setup ( gin basket, better product condenser etc. That first run is going to be nasty crap anyway, just use it to clean and learn. Congrats on the new keg still, Mr Gadget! Remember that this sugar wash (mashes are made from grain only) is not to be consumed so you can go high on the ABV, like +15% if your yeast will tolerate it. Hope this helps. Better safe than sorry, do your vinegar run again. You gonna give yourself an ulcer. Ok i ran my first sacrificial run today with 2 gallons of viniger and 2 gallons of water and here are the results, can you please let me know if it looks ok at the end (product) or if it is coming out to fast or to slow (if anything i think to fast) I had a hard time getting the tempiture right at first so it was a litlle hot around 210 but then i got it turned back and had it settled at about Got her up to full boil and started the water pump as product started to drip from the end of the Dimroth. So I did not want to take 7-10 days on a wash to use it as a sacrificial run. Then, for a stripping run (strip + spirit run protocol), you collect until the low wines are at 25 to 30 %ABV. Then, rerun the low wines and make your cuts. After a nightmare of If you don’t plan to consume the “basement bottles of booze”, then of course you can use those for your sacrificial run. congrats on your first run! I too started with one of those (5 gal), the condenser is a pain in the butt! I always had to fiddle with it. Either 11-12% or your alcoholmeter is off. My question really was more about whether fermented washes on stipping runs are adequate cleaning or a I completed the sacrificial run on my still last night. Post by still_stirrin » Sat Jan 09, 2021 11:15 pm. Ran a vinegar cleaning run through it. Can I dilute this and use it for a After reading the posts on a previous thread I started I decided to go for a stripping run of 4L. This is a read-only forum. Now is NOT the time to get greedy or lazy. Overall, it went very well. The Largest Online Resource for Distillers. You should throw the condensate out afterwards. Then, the resulting low wines collection will recharge the boiler for your spirit run. rad14701 retired Posts: 20865 Joined: Thu Dec 20, 2007 12:46 am Location: New York, USA I'm curious if I can save the "sacrifice” for future cleaning runs? Was thinking of proofing that down to 20-30 for storage and using for future use when I can add components to my setup ( gin basket, better product condenser etc. 5 gallons of an 8% abv be enough?. It will make the process of making cuts much easier. I also thought it'd be good practice to do a small volume that low and slow like a spirit run, practice making cuts to better understand fractions, manage the heat based on the drip, and learn to use my shiny new I like to run a good sacrificial cleaning for at least a couple of hours. If you did a good manual cleaning and a good 50/50 water/vinegar run, one 3 gallon charge should probably be enough. If you think that your first run is going to be the damn good top shelf stuff. Collected just over 2 qts of liquid. It’s purpose is to dissolve ( be a solvent to ) any residue left after the construction phase . Hell, it'll get cleaned with each new run anyway. I ran in "Reflux" for a few minutes to really get everything full, then raised the RC and lowered the heat input to get a slow stream, then had a bit of a play around with RC position and heat for a while, to get a feel for my still. JTBullfrog wrote: ↑ Sat Nov 02, 2024 12:22 pm Hi all. 75l of vodka I found for $9 and use it for my first sacrificial run. Board index. It doesn’t matter if the spirits are clear, colored, or flavored. Skip to content. It's got a 2. So today was a special day. 5% Jar 4 100ml 91. I suggest a fast strip run (making 3 boiler charges to strip) and then a final spirit run. Im sure there will be other answers to this. I get why it's called a sacrificial run, but it could also be called an educational run. I've only had the darkish patina show. And using the PID in a manual capacity for heat control. I have been reading and reading and reading some more and I appreciate all I've learned from the great folks on Stibnut wrote: ↑ Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:31 pm I'm wondering - when we run a sacrificial run following a vinegar cleaning run on a new or re-soldered still, what toxic substance(s) are we actually getting rid of? And why must we sacrifice it rather than treating it as low wines and rerunning it? Sacrificial run Many like to post about a first successful ferment (or first all grain mash), or first still built/bought or first good run of the still. 6% BW wash (I did a vinegar run a week or so back). If I haven’t run my still in a while I don’t redo the vinegar but will do a sacrificial and partial steam cleaning with my feints. That being said Sacrificial Run Post by scmoose » Sat Dec 21, 2019 6:52 pm I need to do a sacrificial / cleaning run and was going to use a 5 gallon UJSSC wash but the more I think about it the more I don’t want to waste that mash. 3% Just completed my sacrificial run on my 5 gal chinese pot still. sacrificial Run Many like to post about a first successful ferment (or first all grain mash), or first still built/bought or first good run of the still. In fact, using heads that have some of the higher solvents will help clean better too. First still, first sacrificial run, few teething issues - please help. My new water recirculation system leaked like a sieve. On a slow spirit run, it wasn't too bad, but a stripping run It's good you made some changes. While waiting for a sugar wash to finish up, I got impatient and figured I'd use a 1. Vinegar, Sacrificial Run, then Spirit Many like to post about a first successful ferment (or first all grain mash), or first still built/bought or first good run of the still. Quick links. The sequence successively cleans contaminants left sacrificial Run Many like to post about a first successful ferment (or first all grain mash), or first still built/bought or first good run of the still. 5% (maybe some heads still?) Jar 3 100ml 93. ). Chuck it normally . merrism69 wrote: ↑ Mon Jul 03, 2023 5:25 pm using leftover booze from parties or bbqs ect. without a thumper it Home Distiller. It is sacrificial . Turned out nice and clean But make sure you have done the cleaning run with vinegar/water first. So, I would use at least 1/2 of the boiler, or in your case 2-1/2 to 3 gallons. jrick35 wrote: ↑ Sat Jan 21, 2023 5:59 pm For the sacrificial run, does the specific gravity have to be all the way down to <1. Took 3 1. If you did a vinegar run you've stripped any hydrophilic residues from the column. But then again, your reading should have told you this Sacrificial Run A MUST READ FORUM Place where new distillers can read many of the important documents that help introduce them to distilling. Disaster With Sacrificial Wine Cleaning Run Many like to post about a first successful ferment (or first all grain mash), or first still built/bought or first good run of the still. Gave me the chance to learn the still a little bit too. Some people need to do second and even third runs. Made several adjustments, got rid of a bunch of extra hoses, added some connections, a ton of teflon, stopped the leaks, and ran through the sacrificial run using a bottle of cheap mezcal, a bottle of cheap scotch, 2 boxes of After each run, I flush with water, put the hose on the worm and flush inside that as well. Then immediately follow with a sac run. I took 2 gals of my 4 gal sugar wash (tomato paste + sugar wash) plus an extra gallon of water and ran it through a stripping run. Post by rbsc » Mon Oct 17, 2022 12:26 pm Yummyrum wrote: ↑ Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:50 am If you got 90% of theoretical , thats pretty acceptable . I don't think it's necessary to fully understand metallurgy in order to produce a good drop of likker. Both runs are important. You will be disappointed. 1st sacrificial run. Start a real wash and run it. what is a good ratio of water/booze for a 20-gallon still for a sacrificial run? I have had the setup for a bit and I am ready to get the first run out of the way. Novice Distillers. 4% Jar 5 100ml 90. No surprises today. I would run the sacrificial alchohol at the higher proof, but run it fast. And although I have spent hours and hours and hours and a few more hours reading this forum, I need to read some more. 7% HEADS Jar 2 100ml 91. 5l vodka bottles (cheap stuff), watered it down to around 15% ABV, and then fired up the still, with the condensor running for the had a clean run with water then with water vinegar sacrificial run with low wines using the electrical controller,,nice!! If I have been reading correctly, the alcohol turns to steam at around 179 degrees and water boils at 210. No advice needed. After this run, I rinsed everything out and then did another water run to make sure all of the vinegar was gone. Tell us about all of these great times here. I ran it and I was very nervous because this was the first time I was running something that could catch fire / explode. in that order. First is that I don't really know what I'm doing. 4. Posted while Bitter posted. usually preceded by a Vinegar Run followed immediately by a steam run or strong rinse with water . Re: sacrificial run question Post by smokeskrene4207 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:14 am So I'm gonna do a sac run on my 15. I realized a lot of things. It takes a bit to be good at Re: Sacrificial run, yield question. Being able to reach every part is not essential. But my sacrificial run I did last night was a 4 gallon sugar wash. Just run the damned thing. o. Twisted Brick wrote: ↑ Sat Oct 07, 2023 12:24 am. Run a sacrifical run of wash through your still and throw everything you collect away. You will need to see how things work and figure how the still runs, how to do cuts, etc. You said it holds about 45l, you can make a wash large enough to fill the The sacrificial run is always recommended as final assurance there is no oil or flux residue left, especially in areas where mechanical / manual cleaning and direct visual Sofirst run of my little ol' 25L tea-urn pot still - a sacrificial run using 12L of 12. 000? If you are thinking about running a slightly-unfinished ferment, as long as the finished ABV is 5 - 10% you'll be ok. It was just a sacrificial sugar wash, but I ran it as a spirit run for the sake of learning. It went very smoothly, and I am really glad that I thought it all through. Now bear in mind, this was my sacrificial run, so I cared more about the process of running a reflux for a neutral than I care about ABV or total output. Post by spencer321 » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:59 pm. Sacrificial Run Many like to post about a first successful ferment (or first all grain mash), or first still built/bought or first good run of the still. You don't have to go big on the power, and my thought is that as long as you give your kit 30min of sac run So I did not want to take 7-10 days on a wash to use it as a sacrificial run. I went to the store and bought diluted vodka to run. But, just keep in mind that sacrificial means you’ll dump it I've got some questions about doing a sacrificial run. I like to have around 20% to 30% ABV alcohol for the cleaning run. Filled pot up 3/4 way with wash, put about a gallon of wash in the thumper (should I measure this?). Re: sacrificial run Post by Bushman » Sat Jan 26, 2013 4:54 pm Nice, your a brave man starting off with a thumper some folks would suggest you go a bit simpler without the thumper until you fully learn the process. I've got a couple of gallons of saved heads that will only be used for cleaning/sanitizing. . Does it measure 0% with water? Normally I would toss bottle 5 and 6. It's not even safe to keep it for cleaner because it's dirty, possibly toxic, and might smell like drinkable alcohol to someone who doesn't know better, or is too drunk to care. Came off the still at around 45% ABV and ran down to just under 20% ABV. Proper cleaning protocol (for a virgin still) is 1) steam clean and water run, 2) pickle cleaning with vinegar/water ('vinegar run' diluting the vinegar 50/50 with water and 3) sacrificial alcohol run. If you don't have any experience running a still, your sacrificial run is a good time to learn, but don't taste. on my 10l Chinese pot still I was advised to go for distilling 1/4. Recently converted my reflux still to a CCVM. Home Distiller. The numbers look like you had a bit more than 9-10%. Others may vary, but you need a thorough cleaning. I've built an SCR controller as well for this kind of job. Do I need to run vinegar AND dump my first alcohol run? Or can I keep my first alcohol run because I did a vinegar run? Depending on how good a job you do with an initial manual cleaning, it may take one, two, or maybe six sac runs to get it clean. Dark mode; FAQ; Rules; Parent Site. Invited a friend over, and we performed a sacrificial run on my Alembic Still. It's a lot of work and time to make that and I don't want to sacrifice it to the distilling gods. If you are running electric, you need to make sure you charge with enough wash to keep the element covered during the entire run. Did a cleaning run with vinegar earlier in the week, did my sacrificial run today with about 3-3. Running a vinegar run through my new still right now. The output from this run will not taste good. It will also give you a “feel” for how your still will run when actually doing a keeper run. Evil juggler wrote: ↑ Sat Nov 07, 2020 1:42 pm Thank you for your response I'm running in potstill mode as I don't have coil built yet ( on its way). Make sure you have lots of fresh air for this. Then use your next run to learn some more. Admittedly, I did run it fairly quickly for a spirit run, producing a steady trickle rather than a drip-drip. 5 gallon keg still would 3. Ferment something cheap like a Birdwatcher's Wash. Without the trained senses to make my cuts, I relied on Cuts take practice and you can’t, or shouldn’t try to do it on a sacrificial (cleaning) run. ltmad uewuvxq ogqjxh ybtbwv fwtwrc tsw eqmvji ddy kpr mbds