R1150gs clutch slipping Second remove tail light. Kokopelli Yeah, right! Joined: May 2, 2003 Oddometer: 5,246 Location: Rolleston. A new clutch isn't a horrible job on these bikes but is pretty involved and can kill two good weekends. It’ll happen at slower speeds and in gears closer to first. Above 4000 RPM if I got on the throttle RPMs would go up but no increase in speed. '03 Slipping clutch If your's happens to do like my '97 R1100RT, it was the clutch shaft seal throwing oil onto the clutch disk. That was for the clutch disk, (2) seals. HackyMoto, May 5, 2019 #21. Bike is a 03' R1150GS Adventure, with about 170k km mileage. Leave your shock and tire off so you can check easily for leaks. Replies 28 Views 2K. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. Jamesa5454 Adventurer. Seal failed between engine and clutch, oil dripping on road and dry clutch now wet and slipping. Open your master cylinder on your handlebars and make sure your fluids are topped off. 000mi, no known clutch replacement) is slipping in the high RPM's when hot, this happens in several gears. It is hard to incorrectly assemble the clutch. First remove headlight. Opened the clutch cover to examine the discs & springs. It's got a little over 40K on it. I have the local hd shop adjust mine and the bike slipped the clutch and after four times of them adjusting it, and now a Clutch slipping. It had only been 27K miles since I had replaced the clutch, pressure plate, seals, etc, but I pulled the bike apart and sure enough the Sachs basic clutch plate was worn down to the rivets. The really good people at Engle Motors (who opened on a Monday to replace a flat rear tire for me) did a test drive and couldn't reproduce it (cold day, cold bike). If it is slipping before reaching the fully cocked position, then there is a problem. #1 – Irregular Noises Cheap oil for r1150gs? Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Tristafarian, Feb 21, 2021. Got by the truck but slipping was getting worse. Clutch Slipping Symptoms: Scion xB. 000km/47. This happens under heavy acceleration mostly when I am in higher gears. 9 - Clutch off Now i always look the bike from the front and it steel being the same bike! Now i have some questions! My bike has only 65. So now roll on throttle clutch slipping. Toyota wanted $1000. When I eyeball the slave, This makes the engine smoother when riding. My ‘07 GSA had a slipping clutch on the interstate when rolling on the throttle, at speed. A few months ago I noticed the clutch was slipping no matter what gear. '06 R1150GS Adventure - "Orion" '03 R1200CLC '06 K1200R - "Philip" Just bought a 2003 r1150gs a few days ago and overall delighted it but 1 thing has me pretty worried. Bike was only worth £2500 so I opted to have a go myself. Just prior to that while on freeway, clutch did slip a time or 2 if hard throttle. *=There are some earlier build cars (2014/2015) which seem to have a different clutch manufacturer, and fall outside this description. I got the bike running again yesterday, I pulled in the clutch while in neutral and popped it down into first. Hardest part for me was getting airbox out and back in 1. In this article, we will explore the symptoms, causes, and possible solutions to address clutch slipping. Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by mpillis, May 4, 2019. I then figured if I could slip the new one in there I could slip the old one out. I'd appreciate any information I can get. Reactions: Tango Alpha. It is an indicator that you are slipping the clutch too much. Joined Jul 3, 2002 Messages Most clutches don't wear out by the owner slipping the clutch, they either get oil Clutch problem: R1150GS - SOLVED. As long as the plunger comes all the way back out when you release the lever the excess fluid pressure that may be there from expansion will be bled off. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Jamesa5454, Aug 3, 2016 #1. A friend reports that the clutch on his 2001 R1150GS is slipping. . thegary, Apr 15, 2006 #1. Joined: Feb 5, 2007 Oddometer: 27 Location: Reading, England. Took me better part of 3 days and frequent re-reading of shop manual. When I drop into gear, the clutch grabs with clutch lever still pulled in and then i stall out. ‘02 R1150RT Hydraulic clutch fluid recommendations? tangoalpha; Apr 20, 2024; Oilheads; 2. Followers 1. 1100 Head Nut Question. ‘02 R1150RT Clutch Slave Cylinder and Gear Position Switch Replacement. Tomorow i get back to tearing this down. 2002 R1150RT, Silver Silver, the "cool and aloof" color. So I just spent over a grand this year on the bike, new As the clutch burns up from slipping (and it will) the problem only gets worse. It doesn't slip too bad. 000 kms so i think this is a premature problem. and it can get to the clutch friction plate, making it slip. The following are several of the most common symptoms of a slipping clutch. And proceeded to immediately drip out of slave cylinder/clutch area on bike when added. Joined: Jul 24, 2008 Oddometer: 96 In addition the clutch went from feeling fine to slipping all over the place in the space of a few hundred miles. WHile I was in there I thought about replacing the slave cylinder. 4. Hi, I 'borrowed' my wife's R1150GS for the ride to work today and the clutch is biting right at the end of the lever travel. May 13 Well I'm no clutch expert but I don't think there is any reason for free play at the hydraulic clutch lever. Hi. Any R1150GS Clutch change guide? Thread starter DrAlf; Start date Oct 26, 2011; DrAlf Well-known member. He says the feel of it is identical to what he experienced when the seal failed on his '98 R1100RT several years ago. I replaced all clutch components from a wrecked bike with 20k miles on it and haven't had any rattling since. ( With a mate to help. That is one of the bigger problems for new riders The slave cylinder leaks a little brake fluid on your clutch disc and it starts slipping badly. I lubed the slave bearing generously [already trans oil lubed], washed the friction plate off through the starter [removed] hole with a can of carb cleaner. Thanks. The failure was difficult starting or starter spinning without spinning the engine. you know to split up the milesÔǪ (I love the 5 speed vs the 6) Anyway the clutch was a little out of adjustment and I adjusted it to around 6mm play at the end of the lever and it seems perfect. So my bike, r1150gs 2003, is slipping in high gears (5th + 6th, occasionally 4th) which is annoying but not really a huge issue in normal day to day driving. Jun 6, 2012 #1 I'm looking at R&R'ing the clutch slave cylinder on my SWMBO's GS. So I took the bike to Duncan, a 1976 R90/6. if it has a sticker that says "API - Energy Conserving" then no #4. The clear majority of posters had experienced the same thing and just grin and bear it. Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Kokopelli, Mar 6, 2005. Learning to recognize these signs can prove quite valuable, when attempting to avoid being stranded in place, in absence of a wrecker. It contiunes untill full engagement of the clutch. When I brought the bike I had a 200+ mile trip home and bike was brilliant but when slipping the clutch in first gear, The reason for this was [1] reduce the clutch lever pull force [2] extend the clutch friction range for easier take offs. 02 R1150R clutch replacement. '03 BMW R1150RT & '24 Can Am Spyder RT, Northeast Ohio--Good, quick Clutch slipping on a 2004 BMW R1150RT can be caused by a few different factors. I paid to have my clutch balanced. So I guess the answer to your question is somewhere between 1 and Just after changing clutch on my 2004 R1150GS, theres been a noise, coming somewhere from the clutch/gearbox. The clutch would slip when the transmission was in fifth gear and the throttle was abruptly whacked open. In low revs it's absolutely fine However, the second I open up the throttle (70-100% open), it slips and eventually catches on if '01 R1150GS Slave Cylinder Removal. Bike is '02 R1150R with 49K miles. Discussion in 'The Garage' started by Sbct, Mar 30, 2018. Third disassemble all remaining parts. I am now reading the threads here and they all state to have 12mm between the knurled Tango - I don't own an 1150, so I'm only repeating what I have read. R1150RT Clutch Slave rebuild IGNORED R1150RT Clutch Slave rebuild. Replies 30 Views 2K. It is slipping in the 6th gear and I am a bid concerned about the spline problem as well. It's strange that it happened so suddenly. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > mpillis, May 4, 2019 #1. " BMW R1150 with ABS – Clutch Access Procedure Bike on its side stand – crack the rear wheel’s 4 lug-bolts. My clutch has started to slip in 4th gear. j chambers, Aug 1, 2009 #9. RPM increase without proportional acceleration: One of the most noticeable signs of clutch slipping is Ok, here it goes. And yes, I only discovered the leaking seal when the clutch started slipping. Help!! My '03 R1150R has had trouble downshifting to 1st from neutral for its entire life, but usually when the engine is cold. New clutch fitted, as of yet no problems since. As the clutch burns up from slipping (and it will) the problem only gets worse. This sounds like a clutch issue, is the engine output seal damaged or leaking? Or the transmission input seal? If so the oil leaking on the clutch plate could be causing the problem. I am planning to replace my clutch. The lad that fitted it didn't replace crank oil seals. That is when, after I replaced the friction plate again, but soon realized the flywheel face and pressure Does anyone have URL for the maintenance manual for the 1150's online. AlpinaE24 Long timer. My 2011 A7 Quattro (86k miles) lost R 2 4 6 gears. I repeated and the noise happen almost every time. I have struggled with take offs because of the small clutch friction range and the tall first gear. If you experience any of these signs, it’s important to address the issue promptly. thegary Adventurer. Wishing you all Good afternoon guys, So for the last two years I've been having what feels like spinning clutch issues. Make sure you don't overfill the MC reservoir, as that will cause the clutch to slip. Surely I haven't worn it out. Oil seal went and oil covered the new friction plate and the My clutch slipped a short time ago when doing a full throttle pass in 6th gear. Collet slipped off. If the clutch disc has been overheated and distorted, you can find getting into 1st shift and shifting down difficult. 19) 1971 Triumph Bonneville, Gold Gold, the "paying the restorer" color. I'm not too familiar with the bmw r1150gs year : 2001 78000 km i have done. Don't know how hard it is to replace, but if it goes to the shop, it runs $714. The springs were a bit under specs so I replaced them. The parts to fix were only in the £120 ( $150 ) range but the BM labour was £800 ( $1000 ). There are cases where oil from the rear main seal can cause premature clutch slipping and failure, but these seem to be isolated instances, and usually cause slipping outside of hard driving. This is the easiest, quickest, NO BS straight to the point DIY tutorial on YouTube hand down, this procedure can be translated over to most R1100, R1150 and This is a Valeo D6RA electric starter for a 2001 BMW R1150 GS. Matt600r Discussion starter. Then I did my '04 GS's clutch--physically easier than 4 Runner, but technically much harder. The new valve-body came from 2013 model I think. Took it to my dealer(no confidence in them) and was told it will be around 8-9 hours labor plus parts, probably around $1250. The manual doesn't have a change interval for the clutch (probably no bike manual does). Failure of the clutch to fully grip because once released the fluid does not properly return to the master cylinder, leaving the clutch partially engaged. I had a the same rattling noise only when clutch was engaged (clutch lever in released position) prior to the clutch slipping. KbdNoOni Adventurer. A few thousand miles after replacing my slave cylinder my clutch began slipping in 5th and 6th gears upon acceleration. Sorta greased up things. Sbct Been here awhile. It is slipping at highway speeds and getting harder to engage the clutch in 1st gear, especially on inclines. When i look to clutch disk it is in good shape but it has oil in it. Demoni, Mar 14, 2014 #1. 00 plus to fix. 1985 posts · Joined 2003 Add to quote; Only show this user #1 · May 11, 2011. There are several different signs that can be used to identify a slipping clutch. As the clutch is not slipping I was wondering if perhaps it will be the clutch slave instead but im not seeing any leaks. Eventually it’ll just stop grabbing altogether and your car or truck will no longer be able to move. Sometimes that works and sometimes I let out the clutch lever a second or third time. I thought it would be a gradual failure. at this point all i think i have left to do to remove the rear frame is to detach the break lines, the clutch slave, shift linkage, electrical connections to rear frame, remove the bolts attaching the rear subframe to the motor, and then remove the drive line retaining clip. This is where your going to need someone to help you bleed the system. #1. Logged dj_downer. valve adjustment & rocker arm end float new cam chain tensioner oil : liqui moly 10w60 The clunk that you hear at the moment is the clutch operating rod moving to-and-fro along the tube through the gearbox input shaft, pushing the clutch diaphragm spring in order to disengage the motor from the On my way from Springfield to Kansas City, I noticed the clutch slip during a high speed roll-on (hot day, hot bike). Bike has 69'000km on the clock and barely seen any gravel in its life. Check to make sure the My clutch has started slipping under hard acceleration in 6th and when riding 2up and pushing it hard in 5th and 6th. Joined: Feb 25, 2006 How Much Does It Cost To Fix Or Replace A Slipping Clutch? On average, you may spend $1,000 to $2,500 to replace the worn-out clutch assembly. 01mm of free play would be fine. the excess fluid has no place to go and eventually the clutch will slip because the slave cylinder can not fully relax. Oil seal went and oil covered the new friction plate and the rest of the clutch. Joined: Aug 19, 2014 Oddometer: 436 Well, at 120k I had to pull it apart again because the clutch was slipping. Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 Next > only thing to watch out for is friction modifiers that can make the wet clutch slip. I did an internet search on the internal clutch. Bike only has 24000km on the clock. R1150GS - is my clutch f^&*ed? Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Jamesa5454, Aug 3, 2016. tangoalpha It didn't budge. I replaced the clutch slave cylinder at 63200miles, plus new fluid. By AnotherLee September 20, 2018 in Im noticing lately that my clutch lever bites almost straightaway without having to let it out a lot. Deleted4248 Guest. I believe it just need to be adjusted, but I do not know how since it is hydraulic actuated. To fix this issue, you may need to 2002 R1150rt Clutch Replacement IGNORED 2002 R1150rt Clutch Replacement. Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by thegary, Apr 15, 2006. Heres a link to the vid: https: which travels down the push rod tunnel onto the clutch friction plate and makes the clutch slip and ruins the friction plate. Hey Guys I bought my dream bike(R1150gs of course ) recently, but it seems like she creates new habbits like creating vibration at takeoffs. 2, p. (Road & Track Vol. a lot of rpm but no go! His 2000 R1150 GS has 180,000 miles on the original clutch. 2002 R1150RT clutch slave leak into gearbox? You'll know if it needs replacing, it will begin slipping. Replaced parts, new internal/external filters, fluid, seal and gearbox worked fine. For slow speed maneuvers they teach slipping the clutch, vary the pressure to vary the friction in the friction zone without stalling. R1150GS clutch slipping in 4th gear. The previous post may have been talking about the rear seal of the input shaft. I was riding an R1150RT with about 9K miles on the clock Slipping hydraulic dry clutches generally have one of three causes: 1. Is usually this happens? When i look to clutch disk it I noticed when i release the clutch from 100% pull in to around 50% where bike start to move i heard the rattle noise from gear box and drive train like cranky, sounds like the gear is kicking in. Replies 30 Views 3K. Joined: Oct 1, 2013 R1150GS slipping clutch. I've read a few threads about the clutch bleeder on the R1150GS. It was saturated I believe I may need a new clutch and related parts. It damn well can be, but I doubt OP (A least on my 04 R1150GS. At some point in the bike's lifetime, the clutch actuation system starts to leak. and the labor. Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by KbdNoOni, May 6, 2008. jsouth; May 20, 2024; Oilheads; R1150gs clutch. Deleted4248, Nov 12, 2018 #2. Ordered circuit board and valve-body from shenghaiautoparts. I let out the clutch lever and try again. The starter Hi there, I'm sitting with a family members 1200GS and noticed a slight clutch slip when accelerating from low revs in say 4th gear from 90-120km/h. ) As the clutch wears, the fluid level in the reservoir goes up. The expected drivability and smoothness of parallel HEVs are difficult 2004 BMW r1150GS Adventure Hello, I’m looking for some guidance and experience with the following issue. As per Ravin's advertisement, the internal clutch is supposed to slip once the crossbow is cocked. Hydraulic clutches are self-adjusting. My question is how much should this kind of repair cost? 04 R1150RT Clutch Repair Cost? IGNORED 04 R1150RT Clutch Repair Cost? By MRVinton June 1, 2008 in Oilheads. A bit smelly as well at the That the clutch slipped under acceleration in 2nd gear? Or the bike popped into neutral or 1st? The former would be a worn clutch, slave cylinder fault, clutch lever pushing New clutch slipping R1150GS. If the clutch works correctly, then it Extremely quick clutch wear r1150gs. There is a hose from the clutch slave cylinder that has a bleeder valve assembly with a check ball on the opposite end of the hose. If you see any debris there, it is time for a lube job. AlpinaE24, Feb 21, 2021 #5. If the clutch is not slipping in the first test it soon will be. Started slipping again. The bike has a load of history and the clutch was done a few months ago (~ 54k miles). It was replaced two years ago and I have had no problem until this past week. May 13, 2024. Joined: Nov 2, 2010 It's pretty easy to diagnose but there is no slipping. prior to the clutch slipping. Clutch master cylinder needed fluid . It has been suggested to remove the bleeder valve assembly (Werkstück) from the end of the hose and simply install a bleeder screw or speed bleeder in its place. I'd The clutch of my R1150R (76. 2. latch the cam-lock strap securely and check it won’t slip and nut you. Medium poster Offline Posts: 125. Sbct, Mar 30, 2018 #1. the engine and transmission shafts run on perfectly on the same centerline) there will be People slip the clutch or do clutch up wheelies on dirt bikes for YEARS, and then sometimes have to replace a $60 clutch. MRVinton Posted June 1, 2008. not real surprised given circumstances. All the discslooked good and between the manufacturers specs. The parts may only cost $400 to $700, while the rest of the expense goes to labor. I have a few questions: The bike is a 2014 GS LC and has 81,000 miles, is it likely that the clutch just needs to be replaced? For parallel hybrid electric vehicles (HEVs), the clutch serves as a vital enabling actuator element during mode transitions. Clutch slipped on hard acceleration in 4,5,6 once the bike warmed up. By DerekK November 14, 2019 in Oilheads. 2003 R1150RT & 2017 R1200RT. com but kept old TCU. I am in Providence Rhode Island and am considering MAX BMW for repair. I don't know if it was the worn out disc or other New clutch slipping R1150GS. Hope you can make contact with Ravin and solve the problem. Anybody got any ideas what could have happened? Dealer is 130 miles away, so hauling it up there again on Tuesday. Turned out to be an engine seal leaking oil onto the clutch. Recommended Posts. Clutch slip. There were a number of slipping clutches in '96 to '98 oilheads that were attributed to the failure of the clutch input (or output, I can't remember which) shaft '22 H-D 'F' outfit, '46 Indian Chief outfit, a couple of early Honda Benlys, "BUBba" - R1150GS Adventure . After the engagement no vibration/no slipping occurs. Have them pump on the clutch about 5 times and then hold the clutch in. Started noticing it a couple thousand miles ago, didn't think much of it until the clutch started slipping at high speed. Bleeding the clutch on my r1150gs Clutch slipping or transmission issue? Jump to Latest 26K views 27 replies 13 participants last post by Sr0352 Mar 25, 2023. It's never progressed into anything worse. This is to prevent over cranking. It could be due to worn clutch plates, a damaged clutch spring, or improper adjustment of the clutch cable. Joined: Sep 2, 2008 Oddometer: 525 Location: Union, Ky. 06-04-2012, 04:35 PM Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials #2 ckcarr: Talk Less, Say More . The Repair Manual sez remove the electrical box and pivot the rear frame up to access the slave cylinder. ; Signs of Clutch Slipping. Thank you so much for posting pictures online. Clutch Slipping Symptoms: Dodge Dakota. Post by GreasyRag53 » Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:34 pm. Most bikes are turned into junk in other ways way before clutch wear becomes an issue. Your clutch should not slip when cold or hot, if it is slipping when cold it needs new plates or adjusting. Have you looked at the fine adjustment on the handlebar, it need to release the clutch completely and should be set to 1 mm out. There are a few symptoms associated with a clutch slipping. I have started to make repair kits for BMW R1100S and R1150GS RS R RT hydraulic clutches. Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by abbocath, Sep 5, 2018. I notice it the most when I am on the freeway in 5th or 6th gear and 1. tangoalpha. KbdNoOni, May 6, 2008 #1. 56, No. I have an '88 4 Runner with 310,000 miles--clutch started slipping a while back. If they open it up and find ANY type of oil or brake fluid in the clutch area it SHOULD be Have you been using more engine oil? Pull the the fill plug for the gearbox and see if the oil level is low. . If you happen to have a bike that has perfect spline alignment (i. Symptoms of Clutch Slipping: 1. #8. I recently took a long ride (8094 miles) from Idaho Falls, ID, to Deadhorse, AK, and the only problem I had with the bike during the trip was the clutch circuit. Discussion in 'GS Boxers' started by Demoni, Mar 14, 2014. My clutch slipped a short time ago when doing a full throttle pass in 6th gear. This reservoir supplies the whole circuit, which includes the master and slave cylinders. When that happens it's a "hard" shift, as you say. Demoni Adventurer. Just paid a lot of money for a BMW dealer to replace the clutch in my 2002 R1150GS. I have looked at the clutch fluid and it looks reasonably clear and the gear change is otherwise nice and smooth. It's only had around 1500 miles put on it since the replacement. If you are a competent DIY mechanic then you will be able to do it Button things up and now it's time to bleed. I managed to replace the seal with the rod in place. Fixed under warranty. which revealed itself by oiling the clutch causing it to My '07 GS clutch slipped due to a transmission seal leak which fouled the clutch. Jump to Latest Bike is '02 R1150R with 49K miles. I have a01 BMW R1150GS with only 25,000 miles and clutch just started slipping a bit. It's a simple three step process to get the clutch out. It slips when accelerating hard around 6K-7K RPMs. 3. HackyMoto TEAM USA GS TROPHY 2012. The engine speed is to slow at idle to affect clutch rattle. Now remove the pesky, troublesome, gold-durned Air-Box, untangling it from wires and tubing as you drop it down last winter I decided to replace the clutch on my 04 R1150R Rockster @36k miles with the improved longer-spline-shaft clutch kit. Kokopelli, Mar 6, 2005 #1. Next town 2003 bmw r1150rt clutch problem. Old clutch just needed replacing as it started slipping. 00 (at least at the BMW shop I went to). My bike had 115k miles on original clutch and there was basically no friction material remaining. Join Date: May 2000 And as you are inexperienced could you be confusing that throttle action with clutch slipping. Most concerning, is why the fluid level dropped. Sounds like you have to heat the clutch up before it starts to slip, time for My clutch has been slipping lately. mpillis Been here awhile. My baby I think you will find it is the plates expanding with the heat not oil thinning, that is stopping the slipping. UKGSer Subscriber. How do I check if my lawnmower clutch is slipping? To check if your lawnmower clutch is slipping, start by disengaging the blades and starting the engine. j It sure felt like a slipping clutch - mostly when you accelerate briskly in higher gears. I am a 'Senior' rider who doesn't like I replaced my clutch slave at about 93K miles and it made no difference. Engine sound changed and acceleration compromised. Aug 10 OK, Service manual just got here. It is a simple job to remove the starter and look inside the clutch housing to view the area around the clutch disk spline. Thread starter mneblett; Start date Jun 6, 2012; mneblett #32806. That said, if you keep the RPMs under 2000, you can slip it a lot without issues. My clutch started slipping at higher rpm's last week. This would be the worst case scenario. I recently purchased a low mileage 2000 R1100rt to supplement my 2005 R1150rt. The bike sat for about two weeks and when I took it out today, I noticed that the clutch was slipping. The prices depend heavily on the type of vehicle you drive and the local labor rates. My bike is an 04 R1150GS with 26k miles. First noticed trying to pass a truck on a hill. On a side note, Steptoe is adamant that with the dry clutch it is important NOT to disengage the clutch was stopping at lights etc as it accelerates the death of the clutch slave. A slipping clutch can lead to further damage to the engine and other components if left unchecked. So I said "I can do this". When you replace the slave cylinder, drill a 1/8" or so hole in the floor of the cavity where the slave cylinder R1200GS, 2005, 53,xxx---sorry, long post. John, his first rate mechanic replaced the clutch, pressure plate and clutch surfaces. tangoalpha; Apr 21, 2024; Oilheads; 2. #17. Except one issue!! On harsh acceleration clutch slips badly. Usually, the level stays the same, or drops very slow, because as the 02 R1150GS clutch slipping. No perceptible vibration reduction. They’re Charles Atlas tight at 105Nm dry. I suspect it's fine, but inspect it and see. dkrit zvo hnkopsq yhne anni wxzwg ynztb ppocq pirb iywo